Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:49:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Hoey To: John Conway Subject: Re: [math-fun] non-square products of squares? cc: math-fun I wrote: > Up to order 255, the only group that exceeds 1/6 is > SmallGroup(48,50), or > = (a b a^-1 c)^2 = 1> . > It has a probability of 5/24 that a,b,ab are square,square,nonsquare. I looked at your classification of groups of order 16 and verified your translation of the smaller anonymous groups I found. In hopes of identifying this group, I found its derived subgroup 2^4 . Of course G/G' is C3. But the direct product C3 x 2^4 is not G. That seems similar to the case for A4: A4/C3 = 2^2 but 2^2x3 is not A4. Somehow I thought that was the way to decompose and reconstitute groups, but I guess I'm mistaken. As for identifying the group, I have checked that its order spectrum [1,15,32,0,...,0] is unique. Its center is 1. Dan