Making Light: Tracking Nielsen Haydens in their habitat ::: August 16, 2004, 03:19 PM Xopher: Andy, I meant the person who stays on Earth is also predicted to be older than the one who flies at a significant fraction of C. Relative to the frame of reference of the one who flies off, the Earthbound twin is moving at a significant fraction of C. It's called the Twins Paradox because each twin ages more (and less) rapidly with respect to the other. Now, if I misunderstand that, I'm ready to be corrected. But that's how I had it explained to me.... I think the disconnect is that Andy was describing relativity without mentioning the twin paradox, and you're describing the twin paradox. ... Mere one-sided time dilation doesn't strike me as paradoxical, or is my sensibility just too post-Einstein to see it as such? I agree that the idea that two equally valid reference frames can disagree on which frame is time-dilated seems paradoxical. I guess that's why Heinlein got it wrong in Time for the Stars, if I remember right. Though I don't how it should have worked, except possibly that it shouldn't have worked. Nor ansibles neither. They're just weird scifi ideas, ginned up to make plots more interesting than "They left and we never heard from them again."