Making Light: Bub, bar cher flap! ::: March 25, 2007, 05:29 PM Sorry, Owlmirror, Omegaps is what I call it, and I stand by #63. I freely offer you my permission to call it any way you want, if my permission is of any help to you. Remember Alexander Pope: "'Tis with our judgments as our watches, none/Go just alike, yet each believes his own." I didn't invent the cipher, just the name I use for it, and I'm sure other names have been and will be used. I'm not even the person who discovered the property of "wizard" (and I don't recall where I heard it), though I did invent the name "kzormdrome" for what it is. If granted, my wish for user-generated ciphers added to leetkey (with user-supplied names) will let a thousand flowers bloom. Still, I don't understand "Zaxbycwd". Do you mean "Zaybxcwd"?