Newsgroups: sci.math From: Dan Hoey Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:57:32 -0400 Subject: Re: On lists of songs and Russell's paradox Apart from the spurious connection to Russel's paradox, the topic of self-referential songs may be of some interest. However, it is generally the case that only the _lyrics_ of the song contain song references, and a performance of the same music with different lyrics is often spoken of as a performance of the _same_ song. This is the case, for instance, in "Leaves that are Green", which Simon and Garfunkel sing with the lyric I was twenty-one years when I wrote this song. I'm twenty-two now, but I won't be for long. Presumably this lyric was not used when the writer was twenty-one. In song whose lyrics refer to its music, neither the lyrics nor the music is, strictly speaking, self-referential. This prompts me to consider two questions. Are there songs whose lyrics refer explicitly to those same lyrics? Or are there songs in which a self-reference is somehow encoded in the music itself? Dan