Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp.mcl, comp.lang.lisp.franz Followup-To: comp.lang.lisp.franz From: hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil (Dan Hoey) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:39:42 GMT Subject: Marketing sleaze, revisited In case my message last week got lost in the storm of duplicates to comp.lang.lisp.mcl, I'd like to alert MCLers to an unsavory network practice. I got email last week from sarah@franz.com that read in part: : I read your message on the newsgroup regarding Apple's announcement : to discontinue their support and development of MCL. As I'm sure : you realize, your sentiment is shared by most all MCL users. The rest of the email, in its entirety, was a form letter containing a marketing survey and an invitation to join a mailing list for Franz, Inc. products. I don't think posting an opinion about MCL or Apple should subject the poster to junk email from Franz and other software providers. Furthermore, I find the ingratiating platitudes quoted above to be an insincere ruse to make the form letter appear to be relevant to my Usenet post. (In my case that attempt failed hilariously, because my post didn't even mention MCL or Apple. That's the sort of clerical error that is easy to make when you send out form letters in bulk.) If this practice continues, any time you post to Usenet you may be subjected to mass mailings from any advertiser who thinks they might make money on you. It's as bad as postal junk mail. Worse, in fact: the lower cost to the huckster will lead to greater abuse. And in a medium where anyone can ask for the information they want, sending junk email to people who don't ask for information is gratuitously obnoxious. I call on Franz, Inc. and Sarah Molyneux to discontinue sending form letters to addresses they cull from Usenet posts, except when the poster asks for help finding their products. I think they should make their policy public so that their current and prospective customers can determine whether they are dealing with a reputable firm or a public nuisance. Dan Hoey Hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil