Newsgroups: alt.usage.english From: hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil (Dan Hoey) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 05:58:54 GMT Subject: Re: The curse of the apostrophe da...@s0dl.exnet.com (Dave Lockwood) writes: > Normally, singular nouns prefix the possessive 's' with the > apostrophe, and plural nouns suffix it. The exception is a singular > noun already ending in 's' where suffixing is used.... And he...@ucthpx.uct.ac.za (Heidi de Wet) responds: > Wrong, wrong, wrong. Singular nouns take "'s", except in a few > cases where they end in "s" already ("James's book" is correct, but > "Jesus' words" is fairly standard.).... Wrong indeed, but if I were he I wouldn't take your word for it. Who says it's right? I won't take Dave Lockwood's word for it, either, especially if he's too careless to get "bizarre" right. In fact, both of your willingness to hand down your stylistic preference as authoritative without further justification is, to me, a reason to disregard your judgment on matters of style. But there are other ways of arriving at a decision. The Associated Press style book says to use "'s" for single-syllable words but a bare apostrophe for longer words--a bizarre rule. It made me wonder last summer when the New York Times reported that Andrew Wiles had proved Fermat's Last Theorem. They mentioned "Wiles'" proof on page 1 and "Wiles's" proof on page D22. I wondered which is the Times's style, or whether it might be a disagreement over the number of syllables in "Wiles". Or his age? Strunk and White make exceptions for "ancient proper names" without explanation. And is theirs a reasoned decision? Or just a cowardly unwillingness to take King James to task for the spelling of "Jesus'"? Fowler goes into more detail: It was formerly customary, when a word ended in "-s", to write its possessive with an apostrophe but no additional "s", e.g. Mars' hill, Venus' Bath, Achilles' thews. In verse and in poetic or reverential contexts, this custom is retained.... But elsewhere we now usually add the "s" and the syllable--always when the word is monosyllabic, and preferably when it is longer, Charles's Wain, St. James's Street, Jones's children, the Rev. Septimus's surplice, Pythagoras's doctrines. (So it's clear that the front page editor was simply being properly worshipful.) But Fowler still doesn't justify the syllabic criterion. Still, my curiosity is aroused as to where Dave Lockwood got his singularly bizarre idea. Is he one of those who follows Fowler's former custom? Is he immersed in a dialect that follows this custom? Or did he learn his style from the ragtag rabble of Usenet, who are quite willing to speak of "Oz' tin woodsman's ax' head" now that their schoolteacher isn't around to rap their knuckles for it? Dan Hoey - Hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil - Striking like a boat from the blue