Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.games.abstract Followup-To: rec.games.abstract From: hoey@aic.nrl.navy.mil (Dan Hoey) Date: 1996/02/29 Subject: John Brunner's game "Fencing" I seem to be having some trouble getting this message propagated; apologies if you see it more than once. The rules of John Brunner's board game "Fencing" (not to be confused with the swordplay sport of the same name) are published in his novel _Shockwave Rider_. In this game, players claim coordinates from a rectangular array (under a complicated protocol) and form triangles with the coordinates they have claimed. After mentioning that triangles formed by one player may not include coordinates claimed by the opponent, Brunner writes: A coordinate claimed by the opponent which lies on a horizontal or vertical line between apices of a proposed triangle shall be deemed included and renders the triangle invalid. A coordinate claimed by the opponent which lies on a true diagonal (45 degrees) between apices of a proposed triangle shall be deemed excluded. There is a major omission here, in that he does not mention points that are on an oblique line not at a 45-degree angle, such as: A . . . . . B . . . . X . . . . C . . . . Is coordinate X included or excluded from triangle ABC? (Note that the definition of inclusion affects the scoring of the triangles, as well as their validity.) Initially, I suspected that Brunner might have meant to require all triangles to have edges parallel to the eight compass points. But on page 122 he mentions a game in which "a single slender triangle running almost the full width of the field" was formed. If all angles were a multiple of 45 degrees, then there would be only one shape of triangle: an isosceles right triangle. That shape is not particularly slender, and it would be meaningless to describe such triangles by their slenderness or fatness anyway--the only distinction between triangles would be size and orientation. So my question to the SF readers and fans is: did anyone ever play Fencing with John Brunner, or talk or correspond with him about it in enough detail to resolve this problem? Followups to this article are directed to rec.games.abstract, which covers this sort of game; if you want to share your other reminiscences about Brunner, please edit the newsgroup line. Thanks. Dan Hoey Hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil