From: "Strong, Lee" <StrongL at MTMC.ARMY.MIL>
To: "'WSFA members'" <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net>
Subject: [WSFA] Re: Got Milk?
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:51:30 -0500
Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net>

	Good morning, Ted.  Actually, I am not fascinated by Mr. Shaver or
his theories.  They are merely a tiny portion of my interest in
pseudo-science.  I've spent more time on Shaverism in the  last few days
than I spent on that subject in the previous several decades.  I am planning
to check out some of the "Shaverian" websites, but, again, it's a minor
interest.  On the other hand, I read (and watch) more material on the
Bermuda Triangle, and a LOT more material on Atlantis and lost continents
generally.  In fact, I ran into Mr. Shaver as a sidetrail to Atlantology.
However, again, I stress that all of these subjects are, generally speaking,
pseudo-science, not science, and I read them for entertainment rather than
illumination.
	You mentioned that no one read your earlier fantasy work.  Au
contraire, I read _The Sorceress of Qar_ and _Phoenix Prime_ several decades
ago and enjoyed them.  The situations are noticeably more realistic than
Burroughs' but he was writing in a different time about a different culture.
	You and I share other interests as well as I am also a diabetic and
a Pepsi afficionado.  Once again, the old saw about great minds thinking
alike has been validated.  However, I also commend the other old saw about
catching more flies with honey than vinegar to your attention.

Your friend, Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted White [mailto:tedwhite at compusnet.com]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 7:45 PM
To: WSFA members
Subject: [WSFA] Re: Got Milk?

"Strong, Lee" wrote:

> [...]
>         Ted, you seem to be reacting to a number of ideas that exist in
your
> mind, not mine.  I have never seen anyone split open rocks to reveal
> spacesuit patterns and never said that I had.  (I have seen people
spliting
> rocks open for other reasons.)  I only learned of this practice from you.
> Therefore, your question about my credulity strikes me as overblown
> rhetoric, not a serious concern for my mental health.

Not overblown; it's key to Shaver.  You see, in 1976 he awoke and began
writing
letters again.  He wrote one to me at AMAZING, after we published our 50th
Annish.  He included *photos* of his "rock books."   I published his letter
but
confessed I couldn't see any alien space suits in the rock photos, and I did
not
encourage him to resume contributing to the magazine.

So he moved on, to a fanzine called TITLE, which appeared monthly in that
era.
There editor Donn Brazier (who had revived his own fan career which had laid
dormant since the '40s) published Shaver's rantings for a year or more.

I assumed anyone as fascinated with Shaver as you appeared to be would be
aware
of his more recent history.   Since for Shaver it's all one package --
Mystery,
rock books, and all -- I pointed to the looniest example to discredit him.

--Ted White