Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 14:46:59 -0500 From: "Michael Walsh" <MJW at mail.press.jhu.edu> To: <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> Subject: [WSFA] Flags, was Re: German policy Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> >ronkean at juno.com wrote: >> ... The point I find interesting is that the >> Germans have chosen to ban Nazi symbols, while their real aim is to >> surpress Nazism itself. It's sort of like tyring to suppress smoking = by >> banning the advertising of cigarettes. > >Not so strange, when you think about it. Nazism, far more than most >religious/political philosophies, defines itself by its symbols and >ceremonies. The main attraction for a lot of Nazis is to be able to >dress up in neat costumes and participate in some really impressive >ceremonies. Take this away, and the Nazis lose their most effective >recruiting tool. > >True, those who are left are a "hard core" who are much harder to deal >with, and if somebody has a big demonstration, you can watch it and see >who shows up. Banning things is a judgment call; the US is on the >extreme end of permissiveness by world standards. Personally, I think >the Germans go too far. We need to study things like the Nazi movement >so that we can recognize things like them at an early stage and keep >them from getting out of hand. To do this, of course, requires detailed >study of what *really* went on -- assuming that everybody went crazy for >a few years doesn't give us anything useful. > >According to what I've read, Nazism was a "hollow" philosophy -- control >for the leaders, ceremonies for the followers -- and nothing else. I'm >not satisfied with this explanation, BTW. > >Obsession with symbols instead of realities is not limited to those >funny ferriners. See http://www.cfa-inc.org/about/cfafaq.htm for an >American example. Wonder how they would define "flag". If I took a newspaper that had a photograph of the flag and burned it - or = wrapped dead fish in it - would they get all cranky? mjw > >-- >Steve Smith sgs at aginc.net >Agincourt Computing http://www.aginc.net >"Truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense." >