From: "lee gilliland" <leeandalexis at hotmail.com> To: WSFAlist at keithlynch.net Subject: [WSFA] Re: equal pay Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 15:28:00 -0500 Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> Pepsi's in the fridge ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Strong, Lee" <StrongL at MTMC.ARMY.MIL> Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> To: "'WSFA members'" <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> Subject: [WSFA] Re: equal pay Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:25:16 -0500 "even with howlingly bad management, a big organization takes a long time to die." Yeah, I know of one case in which an Air Force unit completely lost its entire mission. Nothing left to do. They survived for 7 years and 3 new commanders before someone both noticed what was not happening and had the integrity to pull the plug. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Smith [mailto:sgs at aginc.net] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:06 PM To: WSFA members Subject: [WSFA] Re: equal pay "Strong, Lee" wrote: > > Ah, partially agree. In corporations, there are definitely a lot of > egos. However, said egos have to produce actual profits or they lose THEIR > jobs one way or naother. <Snideness alert> Even in the Federal Government > where we work purely for love of country and salaries are merely the mundane > means of putting bread on the table, egos have a tendency to self destruct > sooner or later. I could tell you stories...! Certainly. However, even with howlingly bad management, a big organization takes a long time to die. All a manager has to do is meet minimal expectations, and s/he can stay in her/his little fiefdom indefinitely. This is even without Enron- style number- jiggering. Consider office politics -- the big egos are *very* good at showing why the failures are all somebody else's fault. When I was working for the Navy, the joke after a major failure was "they fired a secretary or a draftsman". For some unknown reason, we had a shortage of secretaries and draftsmen ... -- Steve Smith sgs at aginc.net Agincourt Computing http://www.aginc.net "Truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense." _________________________________________________________________