From: "Erica VD Ginter" <eginter at klgai.com>
To: "'WSFA members'" <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net>
Subject: [WSFA] Re: equal pay
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:18:33 -0500
Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net>

I have a hard time understanding why standardization of something as
important as computer operating systems is bad--and I've heard all the
arguments ad nauseum. Besides, ol' Bill may have to fork a whole lot of
damages over to us here at Stately Ginter Manor--or at least the stock price
will soar!

Erica

-----Original Message-----
From: Strong, Lee [mailto:StrongL at MTMC.ARMY.MIL]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:22 PM
To: 'WSFA members'
Subject: [WSFA] Re: equal pay

Lee,
	<Seriousness alert>  What is so bad about Bill Gates and/or
Microsoft?  I've heard a lot of hostile comments but I've never heard any
real evidence of wrongdoing.  Please provide specifics.  Thank you,

Lee Who's Opposed to Witchhunts

-----Original Message-----
From: lee gilliland [mailto:leeandalexis at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:08 PM
To: WSFAlist at keithlynch.net
Subject: [WSFA] Re: equal pay

When Libertairians start talking about why we don't need government
supervision over private enterprise, I usually tell them I have 2 words for
them;  Bill Gates.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Strong, Lee" <StrongL at MTMC.ARMY.MIL>
Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net>
To: "'WSFA members'" <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net>
Subject: [WSFA] Re: equal pay
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 11:49:53 -0500

	Ah, partially agree.  In corporations, there are definitely a lot of
egos.  However, said egos have to produce actual profits or they lose THEIR
jobs one way or naother.  <Snideness alert>  Even in the Federal Government
where we work purely for love of country and salaries are merely the mundane
means of putting bread on the table, egos have a tendency to self destruct
sooner or later.  I could tell you stories...!

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Smith [mailto:sgs at aginc.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:36 AM
To: WSFA members
Subject: [WSFA] Re: equal pay

ronkean at juno.com wrote:

 > I don't see the U.S. as being chock full of employers scheming to pay
 > women workers less than the men, but such an employer would be making a
 > bad business decision, in part because it would bad for morale.  As I
 > understand economics, wages in a free market tend to be set by the forces
 > of supply and demand, and employers who insist on making irrational wage
 > offers are working against their own economic success.

This is pure Libertarian theology, and has no particular relationship to
reality.  In the 1960s, I heard exactly the same argument against civil
rights laws.  As to "morale", it has simply never been a consideration
anywhere I've worked.  Term now is "motivation", and it basically
translates as "I want the bricks without straw by tomorrow noon, or
you're fired."

As to the "economic success" of a business, the differences in labor
costs between men and women (or blacks and whites) is in the "petty
chiseling" category.  You want to lower labor costs?  Move the whole
operation to Malaysia.

Anybody who's ever dealt with the higher levels of a real corporation
knows that it's run, not by economics, but by ego.

--
Steve Smith                                           sgs at aginc.net
Agincourt Computing                            http://www.aginc.net
"Truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense."

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