Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:35:25 -0400 From: "Michael Walsh" <MJW at mail.press.jhu.edu> To: <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> Subject: [WSFA] Re: Counterfactuals, was Texas, more than you thought Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> Coincidently enough, in www.locusmag.com there are number of letters = addressing the skiffy/mainstream question. Me, I read a fair number of mysteries; most recently Ian Rankin, he of = "tartan noir". mjw >>> eginter at klgai.com 04/09/02 04:30PM >>> Good for Hawking! I've avoided mainstream since I finished my English requirements in college. P. G. Wodehouse is the closest I've come. There = are no new ideas in mainstream, IMHO. Nothing interesting enough to be worth = my time ever happens, and I can get a better idea of what various locales are like by reading nonfiction or watching the Travel Channel. I once read an opinin from someone outside of SF circles that the problem with fiction is that writers are encouraged to write what they know about, which results = in lots of novels about assistant professors of English contemplating infidelity. Lee, the Heinlein in question was "Number of the Beast," and of course you can borrow "Alternate Realities"; I first read it from the Arlington = County Library, if you want to read it more promptly. Erica -----Original Message----- From: Ted White [mailto:tedwhite at compusnet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:35 PM To: WSFA members Subject: [WSFA] Re: Counterfactuals, was Texas, more than you thought "Strong, Lee" wrote: > Actually, I am reading up on real cosmology at the present time = to > become better educated on this subject. Real physicists and cosmologists= > are increasingly leaning towards a quantum mechanical multiple worlds theory > of the meta-universe. They're still thrashing out the terminology, and, > yes, they're very aware that they're invading the realm of science > fiction... and fantasy. Some science fiction and fantasy literary terms are > gaining acceptance in real science. Stephen Hawking used the term "history" > to refer to what most science fiction readers call an alternate history = or > alternate historical world. Kip Thorne used the lower case term "universe" > to mean a dimensional world including alternate historical world, and = the > capitalized term "Universe" to mean the entire meta-universe or multiverse. > Research continues. Fascinating times... at least in this universe. According to Greg Benford, Hawking "read nothing but SF from age ten on. Much of his thinking is very science fictional, and he knows virtually nothing = of the rest of western lit." (TRAP DOOR #21) --Ted White