From: "Strong, Lee" <StrongL at MTMC.ARMY.MIL>
To: "'WSFA members'" <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net>
Subject: [WSFA] Re: The Constitution and the Citizen
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 16:57:12 -0400
Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net>

	A lot of real intelligence work consists of taking publically
available documents and fitting the pieces together to form patterns that
other people didn't realize they were creating.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Walsh [mailto:MJW at mail.press.jhu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:26 PM
To: WSFAlist at keithlynch.net
Subject: [WSFA] Re: The Constitution and the Citizen

When living in N Virignia ages upon ages ago, I can recall the traffic =
reports always using the un-signaged CIA building as a reference point.  =
Spies, who needs spies . . .

mjw

>>> eginter at klgai.com 04/11/02 04:29PM >>>
Looks like the Maryland department of transportation has the well-being of
our friends and associates at NSA in mind. They're replacing the Rt. 198
signs along I 95 with new onces that don't mention Fort Meade. Makes you
feel so much safer, doesn't it?

Erica

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Smith [mailto:sgs at aginc.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:58 AM
To: WSFA members
Subject: [WSFA] Re: The Constitution and the Citizen

"Strong, Lee" wrote:
>
>         Barry, I agree with most of your comments.  The thing that I =
fear
is
> that a failure to take reasonable precautions and make intelligent
responses
> will lead to a catastropic event that will panic people into "burning =
the
> Constitution" in whole or in part.  Keep thinking and discussing -- two
> great ways to defeat the terrorist mentality!

Absolutely!

One of the more promising things I've seen post 9/11 is that the
Government doesn't seem to have used any of the more Draconian
provisions of the PATRIOT act (a most unfortunate piece of legislation,
IMHO).

The law enforcement types, of course, are well aware that it's not
enough to arrest the Bad Guys.  You also have to get a conviction, and
the conviction has to stand up under appeal.  Busting somebody under a
law that may be declared unconstitutional is not something you want to
do.

--
Steve Smith                                           sgs at aginc.net
Agincourt Computing                            http://www.aginc.net
"Truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense."