To: WSFAlist at keithlynch.net Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:08:03 -0400 Subject: [WSFA] CDs, CD-Rs, and CD-RWs From: ronkean at juno.com Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:45:20 -0400 (EDT) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl at keithlynch.net> writes: > Steve Smith <sgs at aginc.net> wrote: > > and I've heard that the "expected" lifetime of a normal (aluminum > > coated) CD is only about 10 years. > > Definitely not. Like Ted, I have lots of 18 year old CDs, and > they're all still good. Even though I keep my apartment much warmer than > most, which is likely to accelerate any deterioration. Except for > CDs with a blatant manufacturing defect (e.g. "bronzing"), I expect > them to last for centuries, since they're basically just bent metal. > I have also heard that the expected life of a CD is ten years, but I think what is meant by that is that a CD may be expected to last at least 10 years in normal use, with normal storage and handling precautions, while admitting the possibility that they might last very much longer under those same conditions. In other words, the ten year life prediction is a conservative guideline for archival planning purposes, much like saying floppy disks have an expected life of a year or two. In reality, floppy disks seem to be lasting 10 or 20 years (so far), if seldom used, long enough that they have usually become obsolete long before they lose data. > > (CD-R recordable CDs have a much longer expected life -- 100-150 > > years.) > > Are you sure you haven't got those reversed? CD-Rs use a chemical > process, which might fade like old photographs. > -- CD-RWs, which are recordable, erasable and re-writable, are apparently able to be erased and re-written by strong IR laser radiation. Therefore, I would expect those disks to deteriorate (albeit slowly) when exposed to ordinary artificial or natural light, which includes IR, and perhaps to slowly degrade even when stored at room temperature in the dark, by the same token. Storing them at very low temperatures would invite stressing the plastic, or delaminating the sensitive coating. So I would think CD-RWs would be a poor choice for long term archiving. But I don't see why the expected life of CDs should be any different than that of CD-Rs, because both types seem to consist of thin aluminum foil laminated on a plastic disk. As an experiment, I bent a CD-R between my heel and the floor, intending to break it and delaminate the foil. The disk bent nearly to a 'U' shape before breaking into several pieces, including some thin slivers. After the disk broke, some of the foil delaminated, and most of the rest could be peeled away. To all appearances, the CD-R was basically just a plastic disk with laminated aluminum foil so thin it is translucent, with an additional thin layer of plastic on top of the aluminum to accept the ink markings. I have heard a report that CDs have been attacked by fungus in tropical environments, with the fungus getting between the aluminum foil and the plastic disk. Ron Kean . ________________________________________________________________