Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 02:39:42 -0400 From: Ted White <tedwhite at compusnet.com> To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> Subject: [WSFA] Re: Speel checkers? Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> "Keith F. Lynch" wrote: > Ted White <tedwhite at compusnet.com> wrote: > > Interesting that a minority of the responses you got were from > > agrieved "business men" who had hired *someone else* in All Good > > Faith to do their spamming for them, and thus had no idea why you > > were annoyed with *them*.... > > Yes. People who bought (or hired someone who bought) a list of 14 > million "opt in" addresses, every one of which was *guaranteed* to > have asked to be repeatedly spammed. People who were disabled while > single-handedly defeating Hitler in double-you double-you eye eye, and > who are supporting six blind wives and a kid who desperately needs an > operation, and who are just trying to make a little honest money so > their family won't be thrown out into the cruel snow on Christmas Eve. > > If you object to receiving ads for lists of millions of email > addresses, simply ask to be removed. The people who sell those lists > would be glad to remove your address. They'll promptly recall all of > their CDs, destroy them all, and create a new set with your address > removed from them. Right. And then they'll come up with a peace plan > which everyone in the Middle East will agree to and live by. > > > Obviously the Clueless have found the Internet. > > The cluelessness consists of thinking anyone will fall for it, > thinking they can get away with it, and thinking anyone will be > intimidated by their threats of lawsuits and claims that the FBI > is investigating people who report their spams to their ISP. > > I suppose there are a few legitimate businessmen caught up in it. > But it's mostly pyramid schemes and other frauds. Mostly they're > after your credit card number, with which they'll open several new ISP > accounts in your name for further spamming, staying one step ahead > of the law. Identity theft and credit fraud on an industrial scale. > > The sad thing is, I can no longer report it. I was spending > essentially ALL of my free time doing so. By now I'd have to spend > more than 24 hours a day. ISP abuse desks are overwhelmed, anyhow. > Literally trillions of crimes. Doing anything about it would be like > trying to give a fair trial to every cockroach in a garbage dump. > > We're losing email. Enjoy it while you still can. I suppose spammers are operating on the shotgun-approach philosophy that there is *bound* to be a few suckers among all those thousands of email addresses -- suckers whose credulous responses will keep them profitable on some level. Otherwise, why bother? But I cannot imagine responding to *any* email offer spammed to me. (I *do* have my name on a couple of legitmate product lists -- for HP and the Norton people -- but to date have bought nothing online from either company.) To me the fact that it's spam makes it suspect, no matter *what*'s offered. (Lately it's Viagra or some herbal wannabe, penis or breast enlargement and the perennial Work At Home/Make Big Money pitches. The casino pitches seem to have vanished.) I find it easy and effortless to hit the "delete" key. --Ted White