Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 05:27:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Lynch <rw_lynch at yahoo.com> Subject: [WSFA] Re: Fw: 760 GWH/Y power plant visible from 50 miles To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> Have to wonder who did the economic analysis of this project. 760 gigawatt-hours per year is 760 billion watt-hours per year of electricity. If you assume 100% onstream factor, that's 8,760 hours per year. Do the division, and that works out to only about 87 megawatts -- not even the equivalent of a small gas turbine power plant. Normally, an investment like this one is expected to return between 15 and 20% per year on the investment. If the financial model shows the ROI is less than that, the outside investors will take their money somewhere else. A web search shows that the price of electricity in NSW and Victoria is about A$20-30 per megawatt-hour. Given that A$1 = US$0.55, that means the yearly gross revenue from the power plant would be somewhere around US$10 million. If you factor in O&M costs, to keep the place running, the net income probably would be no greater than about US$9 million per year (and that's very optimistic). If we assume all of that income is used to pay back investors at the minimum 15% ROI rate, that means the capital costs of the project can be no greater than US$60 million (or else you drop below the 15% threshold). No way that monstrosity gets built for $60 million. It probably can't be done for ten times that. So why is it being done at all? Australia is not energy deficient -- it exports coal. If it wants to make a statement for "green" power, wind energy is far closer to being economically competitive with fossil fuel than solar energy is. If we assume that no outside investors would be interested in such a white elephant, the money must be coming from the state treasury. Things are pretty flush down there, I guess, if they can afford to fund boondoggles like this. Rich Lynch ---- MIMOSA web site: http://www.jophan.org/mimosa/ --- ronkean at juno.com wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:16:58 EDT > To: extropians at extropy.org > Subject: [WSFA] Power Tower and Greens > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992688 > > Kilometre-tall power tower approved > > 14:35 19 August 02 > > NewScientist.com news service > > Plans for a one-kilometre tall "Solar Tower" that > would provide clean > energy for up to 200,000 homes have been approved by > the Australian > government. > > But some environmental campaigners are questioning > the practical benefits > of the scheme. > > The 130 metre-wide tower would produce electricity > using currents of air > heated by the Sun's rays. The tower itself would be > surrounded by a vast > greenhouse, seven kilometers across. Hot air inside > the greenhouse would > be effectively sucked up the tower through turbines > at its base. > > Heat-storing material inside the greenhouse would > continue to heat air > during the night. > > The massive structure would be more than twice as > tall as the Petronas > Towers in Kuala Lumpar, and visible from 80 > kilometres away. > > Australian company EnviroMission plans to build it > in the desert on the > border between New South Wales and Victoria. > Australia's federal > industry minister put the £308m project into a > fast-track planning > process on Thursday. > > Fossil fuels EnviroMission says the building would > generate 760 > gigawatt-hours of energy per year. > > Roger Higman, senior climate campaigner for Friends > of the Earth, is > concerned that construction costs could outweigh the > potential benefits. > > "If they're planning to build a truly enormous tower > they could use a lot > of fossil fuels," Higman told New Scientist. "It's > not as if we are > short of ways to generate electricity without using > fossil fuels." > > Higman adds that a conventional wind farm could > produce a comparable > amount of power without requiring so much > construction work. > > A smaller 200 metre tall prototype Solar Tower was > built by a Spanish and > German team in Spain in 1982. If the New South > Wales state authority > gives approval for the new tower, construction work > could begin in 2003 > and the structure could be completed by 2005. > > Will Knight . > ===== Rich Lynch ========== MIMOSA web site: http://jophan.org/mimosa/ 1960s Fan History Site: http://jophan.org/1960s/ __________________________________________________