To: WSFAlist at keithlynch.net Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:06:28 -0500 Subject: [WSFA] Re: baseballs and newsgroups From: ronkean at juno.com Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:22:00 -0500 (EST) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl at KeithLynch.net> writes: > ronkean at juno.com wrote: > > Can anyone calculate terminal velocity? I suppose the question > > is: how fast a wind would it take to exert 1.42 newtons of force on a > > 43 cm^2 cross section? > > Not enough information. The surface makes a big difference. > Yes, the surface can make a difference in the drag coefficient, as does the shape. A flat plate facing the wind can have some 30 times the drag coefficient of an airfoil shape. A golf ball is dimpled because the dimples reduce drag compared to what the drag would be with a smooth ball, such as a ping-pong ball. But amazingly, for some shapes even knowing the shape and surface does not necessarily determine the drag coefficient. See http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/shaped.html . At that web page it is said that a sphere may have a drag coefficient anywhere from .07 to 0.5, depending on air speed. But they do give a formula for drag, so now I can try to calculate the upper and lower limits for the terminal velocity, assuming the baseball is a sphere, and ignoring the effect of the surface characteristics, by taking the drag coefficient of the baseball to be in the range .07 to 0.5 . The formula given is D = 1/2 Cd R A V^2, where D is drag, Cd is drag coefficient, R is air density, A is frontal area, and V is velocity. To find V, we may use V = sqrt(2D / Cd R A). So for Cd = 0.5, and R = 1.2, we get V = 33 m/s = 109 feet per second = 74 miles per hour. For Cd = .07, we get 89 m/s = 199 miles per hour. So in round numbers the terminal velocity of a baseball would be somewhere between 75 mph and 200 mph. > ...there was the journalist who reported that > there were many thousands of satanic cults on the Internet. He had > done a search for all web pages containing either "satanic" or > "cult," and assumed that all such pages were home pages for distinct groups > of Satan worshippers. > Of course an actual satanic cult probably would not describe itself in those words, 'cult' being a word which has acquired a pejorative connotation. ... New York fan Seth Breidbart is the person who formally > defined > newsgroup spam for purposes of determining what should be canceled. > Look up "Breidbart Index".) > That seems to be an index of 'excessive multiple posting' within a 45 day period. ... Google > also indexes over 3 billion web pages, something it's much better > known for. > > And they do it *quickly*, too. They're already indexed the > November > 1992 WSFA Journal, which I just put up yesterday, and didn't tell > anyone about. (Googling for "drunken badgers" will find it.) But it seems to vary. One of my neighbors built a Bonetti machine and posted pictures of it on the web (I had made the pictures), and I readily found those with a google search for "bonetti machine". It was on the first page of search results, out of some 1500 results. http://users.erols.com/mbillian/Bonetti_machine/ But my own web page has been up for nearly a year, and google has apparently not indexed it. Ron Kean . ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com