From: "Strong, Lee" <StrongL at MTMC.ARMY.MIL> To: "'WSFA members'" <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> Subject: [WSFA] Re: Murder at the Clone Convention Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:47:55 -0500 Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> _Murder at the Clone Convention_ resembles "The Barbie Murders" because both involve murders in a society of identical human beings. My recollection of "The Barbie Murders" is a little hazy but I think that "barbie-dom" was achieved surgically rather than genetically, and the motivations for the barbies and Neffs are different. The case of "CC" the cloned cat suggests that clones need not look like their originals as CC has a noticeably different fur pattern compared to the donor. This suggests that Clone 001 need not look especially like Clone 002, etc. The upbringing would potentially have a major impact. If all the clones were raised in a mass facility such as depicted in _Star Wars Episode 2_, then greater similiarities would be expected than if one were raised on Tatooine and another on Corescant, etc. An important detail for the author to determine. I have no "school solution" to the mystery posed but am certainly enjoying the discussion. Questions for Detective Lubell: Why do you assume that all the Neffs registered at the front desk and are wearing their identification, or that there is a finite set of Neffs to be dealt with? If sf author Neff is anything like Disclave/Capclave attendees, there will be Neff drop-ins, no-shows, and Neffs wearing the wrong ID's. Clones *would* presumably be more sensitive to proper ID than the average citizen. (I have enough trouble with sharing a name with my father and grandfather!) Why do you assume that any Neffs will be missing? If the clones strongly resemble each other, a murderous clone may assume that he will go undetected in the crowd and will therefore remain on the scene acting innocent. The Barbie Murderer was recorded on film acting innocently. Why do you assume that no Neff had no motive to kill Logan/Neff? In addition to the usual human motives, identity theft is more of a threat to a community of identicals than a community of uniques. Suppose Neff X suspects that his wife is sleeping with Neff Y.... Additional questions: SF fandom includes a costume fan subcommunity. What if a Neff-fan is posing as a Neff, or even as Neff/Logan? "Logan's" identity may be news to the detective but fans are often well acquainted with their heroes' foibles. -----Original Message----- From: Eric Jablow [mailto:erjablow at netacc.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:39 PM To: WSFA members Subject: [WSFA] Re: Murder at the Clone Convention Just a random observation. For some reason this idea reminds me of John Varley's novel, The Barbie Murders. I'm not sure why. Eric