Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:17:26 -0400
From: "Michael Walsh" <MJW at press.jhu.edu>
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Subject: [WSFA] Re: Minutes of the August 6th meeting are online
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> kfl at KeithLynch.net 8/10/04 8:23:17 PM >>>

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>Barry L. Newton wrote:
>> Rather, move that the presiding officer gets the hook if the
meeting
>> goes over an hour.
>
>How many minutes shall we spend debating that motion at the next
>meeting?
>
>I think the best way to speed things up is to cut out the side
>conversations.

And pigs will fly.

>No matter how quietly people think they are talking,
>they can be heard all over the room, and it really does interfere.
>We have the whole rest of the night for side conversations.  People
>who aren't interested in the formal meeting can stay upstairs or can
>arrive after it ends.

Well, the peanut gallery aspect of WSFA is a very old tradition.

>
>Michael Walsh wrote:
>> It's a little intimidating the first few meetinfgs, everything you
>> knew about - or thought you knew - about running a meeting turns
>> into guacamole and comes out your of ears.
>
>Try participating in a meeting while writing down everything everyone
>says.  Especially when it's your own turn to speak.  Or when someone
>passes you something to immediately read and sign.

I'm not that crazy . . .  I've been Trustee, VP, Pres, Disclave Chair,
forthcoming Capclave Chair and a few other things, but never ever
Secretary (or Treasurer) and no desire to be such.

I salute those who have been & are.

>
>At least I've finally mastered the art of writing while I have a hand
>raised.  (It helps if I use different hands.)
>
>> Plus, we do have a tradition of having the Worldcon meeting be
>> reasonable fast - and that's in a few weeks.
>
>We have one more meeting before that.
>
>Meetings have been long recently because so many things have been
>going on:  Noreascon is coming up soon, Noreascon's first night is
>coming up soon, new t-shirts, new membership cards, new membership
>ribbons, the anthology, and Capclave is coming up semi-soon, as is
>the Capclave table at Noreascon.  Not to mention SMOFcon.  And Mike
>Nelson took five and half minutes to say what I distilled into two
>paragraphs:  That we're bidding for the 2011 Worldcon.
>
>Actually, it's still not clear whether that's a *WSFA* bid or not.
>After all, the '98 Baltimore Worldcon wasn't a BSFS project, nor is
>Noreascon a NESFA project.  I notice he also didn't say if he wanted
>volunteers for the bid table and the bid party at Noreascon.

N4 is an MCFI project.
Both Bawlmur Worldcons were separate corporations, but they had
reasonable active support from both clubs.

Considering the financial aspects - and lets be honest, the ego aspects
- of Worldcons, it best to divorce them from the local club.

>
>Noreascon will be over in a month, and Capclave will be over in a
>little more than another month.  And of course we'll all have our
>shirts, cards, and ribbons by then.  So meetings should get shorter.
>Presumably it will be a long time before there's much to report on
>the 2011 Worldcon bid.  Especially if the WSFAns in charge of it
>don't show up at most meetings, as is the case with SMOFcon.
>
>I haven't gotten much feedback about the minutes themselves.  What do
>people think of my longer format?  Note that I've started putting a
>brief summary at the bottom.
>
>Wade pointed out that I left out a chair collapse.  I responded that
>since it collapsed before the meeting started, it didn't count.
>

I don't recall noticing Lee, myself, or Elspeth collapsing.

mjw