Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:29:08 -0400
To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org>
From: Elspeth Kovar <ekovar at worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [WSFA] Local Worldcon bid (WAS Re: [WSFA] Re: Minutes of the August
  6th meeting are online)
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At 10:17 AM 8/11/04, Michael Walsh wrote:
> > kfl at KeithLynch.net 8/10/04 8:23:17 PM >>>
>
>[stuff snipped]

> >Actually, it's still not clear whether that's a *WSFA* bid or not.
> >After all, the '98 Baltimore Worldcon wasn't a BSFS project, nor is
> >Noreascon a NESFA project.  I notice he also didn't say if he wanted
> >volunteers for the bid table and the bid party at Noreascon.
>
>N4 is an MCFI project.
>Both Bawlmur Worldcons were separate corporations, but they had
>reasonable active support from both clubs.
>
>Considering the financial aspects - and lets be honest, the ego aspects
>- of Worldcons, it best to divorce them from the local club.

Very, very strong agreement here.  Mike N. is talking about a bid for 2011
so there's time to work out the business details, but I'm certain that
there's going to be a separate corporation.  (Also, one assumes, a separate
bank account.  I just noticed from the minutes that when Bob was saying how
much was in the treasury he didn't say if part of that was SMOFcon funds or
not.)

I have no idea about the bid table; you'd have to ask Mike. But since he's
running the newsletter for N4 and, I think, most of the other people
involved in the Washington bid are also going to be working on the con, it
might be interesting.  It's possible that they're planning on sharing a
table and the manning of it with another bid or seated convention.  On the
other hand, one can always volunteer and find out what happens.

The one thing to consider is that the bid and, if it wins, the convention
is going to suck a lot of time, energy, and attention from a lot of
WSFAns.  When talking with Bob (who I don't think is on this list) I got
the impression that they're not going to seriously start bidding until four
years out, assuming that Worldcons go back to two year.  But I expect that
the bidding will start ramping up before then, as will the work of finding
a site, hotels, etc..

This means that we have maybe two to three years to get Capclave solidly
established.  At the meeting on Friday I suggested that we should do some
long range planning; with people declaring for 2011 I'll go from suggesting
it to saying that we need to.

> >I haven't gotten much feedback about the minutes themselves.  What do
> >people think of my longer format?  Note that I've started putting a
> >brief summary at the bottom.

I've been thinking about it.  I do like the fact that there are more
details on various proposals and such, and since it's long I appreciate the
summary.

> >
> >Wade pointed out that I left out a chair collapse.  I responded that
> >since it collapsed before the meeting started, it didn't count.
> >
>
>I don't recall noticing Lee, myself, or Elspeth collapsing.

I don't collapse: I gimp.

Elspeth