From: "Ted White" <twhite8 at cox.net>
To: "WSFA members" <WSFAlist at WSFA.org>
Subject: [WSFA] Re: Minutes of the November 5th meeting are online
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:54:45 -0500
Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl at KeithLynch.net>
To: "WSFA members" <WSFAlist at WSFA.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:41 PM
Subject: [WSFA] Re: Minutes of the November 5th meeting are online

> "Ted White" <twhite8 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > And that last of the original three Disclaves (which may have drawn
> > a pro whose name Keith didn't recognize) ...
>
> It was before my time in WSFA.  In fact, it was before I was born.
> So I was relying on Joe Mayhew's "46 years of Disclaving," which
> contains:
>
>   1953 found Disclave back at the Statler on March 22nd.  They couldn't
>   get any Pros to attend, so they held a "Proxyclave", that is, letters
>   from writers were read to the 22 Fen who came. It is not surprising
>   that there was a five year gap before they tried again.
>
> Since 1953 was also before *his* time in WSFA, it's possible that he
> was mistaken.  Here are the people on the sign-in list:
>
> Philip N. Bridges
> Robt. O. Strayhorn, Jr.
> Karen J.M. Kruse
> Isabel Fine
> L.H. Odell
> M.L. Moremen
> Lee Jabocs

That should be Lee Jacobs.

> Franklin Kerkhof
> Bob McArthur
> John L. Magnus, Jr.
> Irene Baron
> Phyllis King
> William Berg
> Warren Felkel
> John J. Hurley
> Mercedes M. Mansfield
> Jean Pcpart alias Harold Lynch
> Ellen Kahn alias Joe Jolley
> Peggy Jordan
> Terry Felcyn
> C.T. Vm. Vechter
>
> The names were handwritten, so I've almost certainly made some errors
> transcribing them.  And there are only 21 names there, not 22.
>
> I haven't listed those who were there by proxy, which included Dick
> Eney, who's on this list.
>
> The 1953 con was definitely called both Proxyclave and "the Third
> Disclave" at the time, so that probably isn't the cause of the
> confusion as to whether there were two or three early Disclaves.
>
> Each pro who was there by proxy had a specific proxy to read their
> letters.  Karen Kruse, then club secretary, was Poul Anderson's proxy.
> Does anyone know when she married him?  Thanks.

Not long thereafter -- by or around 1954.

Phyllis King married Bill Berg, and was far better known throughout WSFA's
history as Phyllis Berg.

Of those named, I've met Philip N. Bridges, Karen J.M. Kruse (whom I knew
as Karen Anderson), M.L. Moremen (a disgusting Suthron bigot who carried a
bottle of Southern Comfort -- and *nothing else* -- in his briefcase, and
told us how he'd adopted a little girl, raised her to become his wife, and
the ungrateful wretch ran off when she turned 18; he pronounced the word
"Negro" as "Nihgra"), Lee Jacobs (who moved to LA before I met him),
Franklin Kerkhof (a founder of WSFA who had moved to southern Virginia --
but he came back for a few parties), John L. Magnus, Jr. (with whom I
shared an apartment in Baltimore in 1958), Phyllis King, William Berg and
Warren Felkel.  I also knew Harold Lynch, who was a Philadelphia fan better
known as Hal Lynch.

I did hear about Proxyclave; I just didn't realize it was the 3rd, rather
than the 2nd Disclave.   From photos I have of the 1951 Disclave (I
think!), it would appear that they were all that small.

--Ted White