Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:05:43 -0500
To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org>
From: Elspeth Kovar <ekovar at worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [WSFA] Re: Changing the rocket...What's up?
Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org>

At 01:35 PM 2/19/05, elilley at mindspring.com wrote:
>Gayle, Paul, Keith, Sam,
>
>I see the rocket still has the lavender border. Is there an objection to
>changing it to the modified file until we can consider a revamped image
>altogether.

Although Dan, if around, might have some objections to folks meddling with
his design -- after we separated upon finding that it was being used on the
website he made noises about copyright but abruptly subsided when I
referred him to Alexis with his expertise in cartoons being copied freely
around fandom -- he left WSFA some years back and no one has been able to
contact him, including me.  So if anyone has control over the image I guess
I'm it.

While I'll cheerfully use that to egregiously back my own opinions the
focus there is 'egregious' and 'opinion': I hereby cede the image to WSFA.

Concerning the text, I asked about it and was given the "the text is being
projected onto the logo" argument.  I'm equally comfortable with this and
it being on the circle and thus needing to be obscured by the rocket.  For
the record, though, it wasn't that Dan didn't get around to putting the
text behind the rocket, it was that upon being asked about it he came up
with the first as an explanation and after that I never pushed on the subject.

Concerning color, Dan was and presumably still is colorblind: those on the
rocket-capital dome image were supplied by other folks in whatever office
he was working in at the time.  When the logo was first shown to me I
didn't care for the lavender but it worked for the flyer.  I think that
Ernest's cream or pale yellow doesn't provide enough contrast to the other
colors but that may mean that the color of the nose cone, circle, the
shadow of the rocket, etc. should be reviewed to see how they work together.

The fact that the Capital steps don't line up is going to always bug me --
is that nitpicking or something that can be fixed?

I think that Gayle and (my porous memory has lost her husband's name.  Paul
Haggerdy?) have expressed interest in doing the only thing that Keith
can't, which is layout and graphics.  Keith doesn't do the visual
presentation of data or work with it well but is absolutely the best in the
sf community when gathering and handling data itself, and getting it up
online -- I think that we may be the first club where our ongoing
publication is not only online but searchable, and I don't know any that go
back so far.  As a result, we have the best data backbone around.  Can the
three of you, with input from Wade, Ernest, Michael Nelson, and whomever
else is appropriate, discuss a basic redesign, with first attention to the
Capclave pages?

Me, I want the logo modified and loaded as I dislike the reminder of what
it evokes and am startled every time someone uses it in a hotel proposal,
but just getting something up without the lavender will help and I'd rather
we focus on more important things than the color of some graphics.

Elspeth