Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:15:32 -0500 To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> From: "Mike B." <omni at omniphile.com> Subject: [WSFA] Re: F-104 vs X-Wing Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> At 07:12 PM 3/23/05 -0500, ecf wrote: > >Anybody around here with a chopper shop want to build an eye-catcher? You *can* build a chopper in the average home garage. I know at least one guy who's doing it now, and another guy who's done it before and is now doing it again (he's a slow learner! ;-) You will need some skills and some tools and you'll probably have to farm some tasks out to pros (painting for instance, if you want to use some of the fancier automotive paints, or powdercoating, or chroming, etc., along with welding unless you have a welder and know how to use it). Oh, and you'll also need some money. The tubing for the frame won't be too bad, but the motor will cost you a few thousand if you want a new V-twin (Harley-Davidson will sell you a TC-88B for about $3500...they are about the cheapest). Other bits and pieces add up too...transmission: $1300, wheels: $1000 or so plus, controls: $800+, chain/belt and sprockets/pulleys, lights, spacers, brakes, sheet metal, etc., etc.. If you want a ball-park estimate, you can get a low end kit chopper for about $11,000. That's in boxes on a pallet, lots of assembly required and unpainted, but otherwise complete. Start with that, then add another wheel, differential and axle, tubing, sheet metal and whatever to convert it to an X-wing trike. Not too much more, especially if you can scrounge some old car parts for the rear end at a junk yard and recycle them (no pun intended, but I'll take it! ;-) and paint it yourself (the sort of paint job you'd need to make a good looking X-wing won't come cheap at a pro shop...a lot of time involved in masking and multiple colors...several thousand at least). You can also build a trike using parts from an old VW bug...like the engine, transmission and rear axle. The rest you build from tubing and bike parts. Probably cheaper than a bike engine, even if you have to do a complete overhaul on the bug motor. I've been looking into building a bike...but only to the extent of reading a few books and talking to some people about how they did it and watching all those shows on TV at the moment (American Choppers, Classic Rides, Biker Buildoff, etc.). I don't have a good place to work at the moment though...my garage is full of woodshop at the moment! ;-) If you want to talk more about it, maybe we should do so at a meeting, con or in direct e-mail? -- Mike B. -- "Cyanide is a scare word." -- Director of the Texas Water Quality Board