Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:26:08 -0400 To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> From: "Mike B." <omni at omniphile.com> Subject: [WSFA] Re: rehash of mundanes VS fans Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> At 06:46 PM 4/20/05 -0400, Ted White wrote: > >We got to know each other that way. The first conventions were set up in >order for fans who "knew" each other to meet, face to face, for the first >time. And then to get together again, annually. That happened on an Aikido list I was on in the 90s. After a few years of talking in e-mail, and being frustrated with trying to describe what we were doing, and the flamefests when people disagreed about the "right" way to do something, we decided to get together and hold a "list seminar" where we could all get on a mat and SHOW each other what we meant, and feel whether it was effective. Several very senior instructors who were on the list volunteered to teach, a dojo in Texas offered to host, and it happened. There were at least 4 more that I attended after that, and they may well still be happening. >There are no "fans who aren't currently in fandom" (unless you mean those >gafiates who have left us). Being in fandom is the definition of "a fan." We have different dictionaries then. I mean fans of SF (people who like reading the genre a lot) who aren't in fandom (i.e. in social contact with the larger bulk of other fans of SF on some sort of semi-regular basis, i.e. at clubs or cons, or at least on lists like this one). -- Mike B. -- I'll have one brain on drugs... with bacon, toast, and juice.