Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 01:05:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl at KeithLynch.net> To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> Subject: [WSFA] Re: Phone Numbers Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> Five years ago, when I started placing WSFA Journals online, I first made sure there was a CLEAR consensus on what was acceptable. The UNANIMOUS consensus was that names and phone numbers were opt-out, and that current street addresses and email addresses (but not towns, and not PO boxes, and not past street addresses) of past and present WSFA members were opt-in. If I hadn't gotten this consensus, I wouldn't have done all this work. Nor would I have asked Wade, Sam, and others to help. Just to be clear, I have *not* been adding journals with street addresses or email addresses, and later removing that information from those online journals. This information was never on our website to begin with. It wouldn't be difficult for me to go through all the journals online and remove all the phone numbers. Nor would it be difficult for me to go through all of them again a few months later and remove all the names. Or to go through them a third time and remove all of some other category of information. But after a few such iterations, why even bother? I would have just as little interest in putting up such bowdlerized and mangled journals as anyone would have in reading them. It would be better to put the whole project out of its misery and shut down our website. We might as well shut down the club, too. After all, you can never be sure that the person sitting next to you in a meeting isn't an FBI agent making careful notes of everything you say and do. If you accidentally let slip what your phone number is, he might just devote the rest of his life to calling it over and over again, so that you'll never again get a moment's peace. It's possible. And if you have a soft drink at a meeting, someone might carefuly fish the can out of the trash so as to plant your DNA and fingerprints at a crime scene. And, of course, there's absolutely no difference between LexisNexis and ChoicePoint storing millions of people's SSNs, DOBs, salaries, criminal records, medical records, etc., unencrypted on laptop PCs protected from thieves only by being stored in plain view in locked cars, and the WSFA website mentioning the phone numbers of members. Sometimes I really wonder why I bother. The people who come to meetings and never *do* anything get a whole lot fewer complaints. And the people who no longer bother to come to meetings at all get the fewest of all. Mike, is there any information about you that's on the WSFA website that you would like me to remove? Would you like me to replace every mention of your name with some alias? All you have to do is say the word, and I will do it. What brought this on, anyway? Was it the privacy notice that I post along with every new WSFA Journal availability announcement? I'm trying to bend over backwards. I don't know what more I can do except shut the whole thing down. And wear a paper bag over my head and ask permission of everyone within visual range before peeking. "Hey, you glanced at me without asking permission first! I'm going to sue you for a Godzillion dollars and Mothra cents!"