Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:18:53 -0400 To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> From: "Mike B." <omni at omniphile.com> Subject: [WSFA] Re: Bring a lunch for this elevator ride... Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> At 01:05 PM 5/3/05 -0400, Paul Haggerty wrote: >Mike B. wrote: >>That's amazing. I didn't know they were so close to actually building a >>beanstalk. I hope this doesn't turn out to be a scam. >For more information on space applications of tethers check out: >http://www.tethers.com/ Beanstalks and tethers are two different ideas. They rely on similar technological advances (really strong cables), but the physics and use methods are different. A beanstalk is a cable from the ground up to a counterweight that's farther out than geosynchronous orbit (which is a bit over 22,000 miles up). Once it's in place you climb up it and let go to be in orbit (depending on where you let go, some adjustment will have to be made to keep your altitude). A tether system for launch is usually thought of as a long cable that is rotating as it orbits at low altitude (low like maybe 200-700 or so miles up)...think of a wagon wheel rolling around the planet, lift it up to orbit, make it really big, then delete all but the hub and two opposite spokes...that's a momentum transfer tether. The site you pointed out talks about them, but for orbital transfer, rather than launch up out of the atmosphere. For launches the idea is to fly up and dock with one end while it's at its lowest point in the upper atmosphere, then ride it up until it is at the highest point, well out into space, and let go. You will have picked up energy from the tether, which will have slowed down an equivalent amount. The tether is "spun up" again by running currents through it to cause magnetic fields which interact with those of the Earth (like the armature of a big motor), stealing momentum from the Earth's rotation and slowing the planet by a tiny amount to get the tether back up to speed for the launch. You can also adjust the tether's speed by catching an incoming payload and slowing it to de-orbit speed by catching an up going one, or using the magnetic field trick again. The main idea in both methods is to get to and from space without having to throw away large masses of on-board propellant. Both require really strong cables, but the beanstalk needs the strongest, or so I've read. There are SF stories that include both of these methods. -- Mike B. -- You can name your own salary here. I call mine Fred.