From: Walter Miles <walter at nova.org>
To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:35:34 -0400
Subject: [WSFA] I will NOT calm down (was Re: Extremely offensive...)
Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org>

On 09/28/05, lee gilliland wrote (in response to Keith's plan to call for
a vote of confidence):
lg> YESSSS!  THANK YOU!!!!!!

This thread is absolutely monstrous.  It is intolerable.  The above
line is intentionally cruel and uncaring, in my opinion, to the point
of evil.  It is also foolish, since  support for Keith will be clear,
with perhaps only one dissenting vote.  This particular contretemps
really is *all one way*.

KL> I find accusations that I'm a liar to be extremely offensive and

Of course.  I cannot imagine how a rational person could examine
Keith's message, or Mike's reply to Lee, and decide that any lie
had been told about anyone by anyone.  Keith made essentially a
"public service announcement" for the benefit of WSFAns who might
want to deal with Lee electronically.  Mike gave an example, in
an obviously humorous way, of how it might have been inconvenient
to not know the Lee was not on the list.

KL> On First Friday, I'm going to call for a vote of confidence:  Does

Although I believe that no such vote is needed (any more than that
Mike Walsh needs to reconsider his list activity---he's the best
thing here), what the hell, maybe it should go ahead.  Maybe Lee
should see the result.  Maybe she should reflect on the way *she*
is regarded within WSFA, the way she relates to other people, and
what kind of help she can seek to diminish her suffering or to
gain some peace.

It is NO help to her to pretend that this attack is reasonable
disagreement or difference in point of view, that we don't feel
embarrassed for her, that we don't feel uneasy about what she'll
do next, or that things are essentially normal.  It's not good
for WSFA either:  pretty soon Keith won't be the only one who
feels unwelcome.

I've been pretty harsh here, but I don't see any other way.

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