Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:26:25 -0400 From: Ted White <twhite8 at cox.net> To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> Subject: [WSFA] Re: I will NOT calm down (was Re: Extremely offensive...) Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> Walter Miles wrote: > On 09/28/05, lee gilliland wrote (in response to Keith's plan to call > for a vote of confidence): lg> YESSSS! THANK YOU!!!!!! > > This thread is absolutely monstrous. It is intolerable. The above > line is intentionally cruel and uncaring, in my opinion, to the point > of evil. It is also foolish, since support for Keith will be > clear, with perhaps only one dissenting vote. This particular > contretemps really is *all one way*. > > KL> I find accusations that I'm a liar to be extremely offensive and > > Of course. I cannot imagine how a rational person could examine > Keith's message, or Mike's reply to Lee, and decide that any lie had > been told about anyone by anyone. Keith made essentially a "public > service announcement" for the benefit of WSFAns who might want to > deal with Lee electronically. Mike gave an example, in an obviously > humorous way, of how it might have been inconvenient to not know the > Lee was not on the list. > > KL> On First Friday, I'm going to call for a vote of confidence: > Does > > Although I believe that no such vote is needed (any more than that > Mike Walsh needs to reconsider his list activity---he's the best > thing here), what the hell, maybe it should go ahead. Maybe Lee > should see the result. Maybe she should reflect on the way *she* is > regarded within WSFA, the way she relates to other people, and what > kind of help she can seek to diminish her suffering or to gain some > peace. > > It is NO help to her to pretend that this attack is reasonable > disagreement or difference in point of view, that we don't feel > embarrassed for her, that we don't feel uneasy about what she'll do > next, or that things are essentially normal. It's not good for WSFA > either: pretty soon Keith won't be the only one who feels unwelcome. > > I've been pretty harsh here, but I don't see any other way. No, Walter, you have not been "harsh." You have said what others think and have not said. And I can think of no one better than you for that unpleasant task, since, as far as I know, you have no ax to grind, no agendas to pursue, and are known and liked by all. Keith feels beleagered. I hope your post will help dispel that feeling. It would really serve WSFA ill if Keith decides he's unwelcome. He puts a lot of work, effort and time into WSFA and deserves our appreciation. --Ted White