Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:48:40 -0400
To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org>
From: Elspeth Kovar <ekovar at worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [WSFA] Re: Minutes
Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org>

At 08:22 PM 10/10/2005, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>The minutes of the October 7th meeting are available online at
>http://www.wsfa.org/minutes.htm
>
>Please promptly inform me if there are any errors or omissions.
>Thanks.

"Keith asked if there would be something in City Paper. Elspeth said yes."
I think that I chimed in as Sam Lubell was talking, he being the person
who'd done the work.  But my voice may be more distinctive.  Or louder.

"Elspeth said another concern was the force majeure or act-of-God clause,
which says that under some circumstances the hotel can cancel and not
reimburse us."
I believe that I also said that I'd gotten it written two way: if various
things happen, such a terrorist attack shuts down transportation, that
makes it impossible for us to hold the convention we don't own them
anything.  A minor correction but not getting clauses like that so they
both go both ways is a standard mistake.

"Two Worldcon bids are hosting parties. The Kansas City bid withdrew their
plans for a party. Barry said KC had had three people coming."
You might want to put in a note that I checked the housing list afterwards
and some rather old email -- the more recent things are filed in a separate
folder -- and they'd said they were coming so long ago that I'd forgotten
that they'd replied.  So we have all three of the current Worldcon
bids.  At our little convention.

"Paul said he'll put the new rates on the website as soon as they're known,
and that he will make the main Capclave page point to '06 as soon as the
current con is over."
I think that after some discussion it was agreed that instead of having the
current Capclave page point to the '06 page we'll have a banner along the
lines of "Had a wonderful time!  See you next year at the [Hilton etc.] the
weekend of [the dates have just slipped my mind].  More details coming
soon."  Or whatever Michael Nelson is kindly putting on the flyers that I
haven't gotten around to looking at yet.

"NEW BUSINESS:

Keith called for a vote of no-confidence on himself, by secret ballot so
nobody would feel intimidated, saying he needed to know whether he still
had the support of the club. He said it would determine whether he only
leaves the Gillilands', or leaves the club completely. The motion was
seconded but not voted on.

Sam requested that it be postponed. Bill moved that it be tabled. His
motion was seconded, and passed. Judy Scheiner said that she for one had no
idea what the issues were. [ Keith will write something up, at his own
expense. Others are free to do the same. ]"

I think that it's worth noting that Lee later said that since a number of
people would be missing Third Friday because of Scott's wedding she'd like
to ask if the vote could be postponed.  Could you include her entire
remark?  People then said that rather than doing anything now tabling it at
Third Friday would do it.

"Elspeth asked who Deidre McLaughlin was, and if she was present. Mike
Bartman said she usually only comes to Third Fridays. [According to the
secretary's records, Deidre has never been to the Gillilands'.]"  You might
want to add that in the brief discussion after her question Elspeth said,
never mind, that she was being stupid and had gotten two people on two
different email lists mixed up.  I don't want Deirdre reading the minutes
and wondering who the heck Elspeth is and why she's asking about her.

"Elspeth's cat Tribble has diabetes. She spent nearly all day either at the
vets or at the con hotel."
Sorry, it's Fribble although any SF fan would hear it as Tribble.  (She
doesn't reproduce but does purr louder.)  And *she* didn't have to spend
all day at the con hotel, the lucky beast.  She and I spent most of the day
before, Thursday, at the vet's.  I heard about the blood work first thing
on Friday and then I spent most of the day at the Hilton while she stayed
home an lounged about.

Elspeth