Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:51:16 -0400 To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> From: Candy Madigan <candymadigan at mindspring.com> Subject: [WSFA] Re: Book shelves and cases Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at WSFA.org> Hah! My hind brain just figured it out. Four 1'X6.5' pieces of cotton duck, eight 1' square pieces of thin wood, twelve 2' dowel rods, and nine 1' dowel rods, and I will have collapsible light weight shelves for my purses at my next event. I love having a brain that thinks like an engineer. I may need to add two more 8' lengths of cotton duck and another 16 pieces of thin wood, but I'll put it together first and try it out before I decide. At 09:05 PM 10/20/2005, you wrote: >I take your word for it that Staples sells folding bookcases, but they >aren't on their website. Most annoying, since a short folding bookcase at >one end of a table at an event, would be really helpful for me. > >At 06:47 PM 10/20/2005, you wrote: > > >On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Mike B. wrote: > > > > > At 12:17 PM 10/20/2005 -0700, Michael Nelson wrote: > > > > > >> I just priced a basic 6-foot high by 4-foot wide bookcase > > >> with eight shelves set 8 inches apart for paperback books. > > >> Nine 1" x 6" x 4' pine boards for the horizonial pieces and > > >> three 1" x 6" x 6' pine boards -- two for the sides with > > >> one in back to prevent the shelves from sagging. At the > > >> current prices at Lowes, one pine bookcase would cost > > >> about $90 if you already had the tools you would need. > > > > > > I suspect the cost of wood is behind the revival of the style of case > > > consisting of several narrow boards for the verticals. Rather than 2 > side > > > boards you can rip one into enough parts for both sides. You might get > > > more using dowels between a couple of 1x2 solid wood sides...that's the > > > sort of construction the folding one I got from Staples uses. Looks > nice, > > > uses less wood. > > > >The Staples folding ones are theoretically stackable, or used to be. > >A while back they had a deluxe version that had a back and a top, and > >looked like fine furniture while still folding down flat. I wish I'd > >gotten one. > > > > > Plywood or MDF for the shelves is also common, even if you put a > "nose" on > > > it from solid wood for stiffness and appearance, then either veneer or > > > paint them. Hardboard or thin plywood for the back panel works well and > > > costs less than more boards too. > > > >3-layer plywood is routinely used in commercial furniture, as is > >hardboard, for drawer bottoms and bookcase backs. > > > >The major questions are: 1. (as Mike mentioned) how much weight can your > >floor take, and 2. how many sharp or rough edges can you live with. > > > > Sheet "wood" made of plastic and wood chips, like the chipboard with > >veneer that most cheap bookcases are made of, is heavier than the same > >size of natural wood. > > > > Any home-made woodwork will have to be sanded smooth. Sears used to > >sell excellent metal bookcases that held full loads of books for decades > >without sagging, but I don't know whether they still carry them. The > >design varied over time but always involved being assembled with bolts. > >They didn't have backs or sides; someone I knew bought sheet aluminum cut > >to fill the width between the uprights and full height, drilled holes, and > >bolted sides (and sometimes backs) onto them. That increased the rigidity > >_considerably_, and prevented books from falling off the ends. One strip > >could be held between two stacks of shelves in larger assemblages. Once > >the edges were filed smooth the only drawback was the shine. These were > >not the cheap shelves commonly sold for garages, but the sheet aluminum > >system would probably add rigidity to those too. > > > > The aluminum doesn't rust and it takes up less space than equivalent > >wood. For homemade bookcases where looks are not so important as > >function, I'd add sheet metal sides to stiffen wooden shelving. Shelves > >should be shorter than 3 feet, preferably two feet long, for anti-sag > >qualities. Books are _heavy_ and wood will sag over time. > > > > For stacking bricks and wood, I've heard that glass brick is better > >looking than regular brick, doesn't absorb moisure, and is less abrasive. > >OTOH it can break and it's just as heavy. > > > > If I had to move frequently (a nightmarish thought, considering how many > >books we have), I think I'd investigate having book boxes made. The > >problem with those is that they weigh so much when full, I'd have to have > >them made about 24" by 24", which would add a lot of space-filling wood. > >If they were just deep enough so the book edges would be protected even if > >there were no "lid", a wheeled base the same size could be made to make it > >easier to move them. It could be another book-box, with caster holes > >built into the corners, and the casters left in place or removed according > >to personal taste. It would have to have a place to grab hold/attach > >tow ropes, and it could be a little deeper than the upper shelves/boxes, > >maybe even have 'doors' and be a true small cabinet. > > > >=Tamar Lindsay > >Candy >(301)345-6635 Candy (301)345-6635