Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:21:41 -0800 (PST) From: Cathy Green <dalek_cag at yahoo.com> Subject: [WSFA] Re: Odd events To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net> Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net> --- "Mike B." <omni at omniphile.com> wrote: What I've heard so far is that this was triggered by management saying that new employees would have to contribute 6% of their pay towards their pensions. That's still a better deal than most workers in the country have...I'm kicking in well over 8% toward mine, and mine isn't even guaranteed like theirs is. They have a much better deal as far as benefits go than most of those in the city, so what are they griping about? ------ I have to admit to not being particularly sympathetic to the union on the pension and health plan issues. When I worked for the NYC Law Department, the City didn't contribute anything to my pension. According to one NY Daily News article, motormen and conductors make on average between $54-68,000. That's for a job that requires a GED or high school diploma and a civil service exam. My attorney job with the law dept. would have capped out at $68,000. Of course, we weren't union. Lawyers at other city agencies made slightly more money and were Teamsters. And the TWU Local isn't just violating the Taylor Law, the parent union did not authorize the strike and has calle on workers to go back to work. However, the MTA violated the Taylor Law by bring up the pension issue. Pensions for union employees covered by the Taylor Law are not a collective bargaining issue. as I understand it, pensions can only be altered by the legislature. Cathy __________________________________________________