Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:06:10 -0500
To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net>,
   WSFA members <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net>
From: "Mike B." <omni at omniphile.com>
Subject: [WSFA] Re: Email issues...
Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net>

At 12/20/2006 09:55 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:

> > and tell them to do a search for the word "enigmatic" and lo! there
> > is Cathy Green's response in all of it's delightful cold lawyer like
> > prose deconstruction all what Alexis wrote about her.
>
>And those who are only on this list never saw her message at all.

Me, for one.

> > The purported reason for the change was to have the "official" WSFA
> > list on a system that WSFA controlled, and since you'd left WSFA
> > having you host it didn't fit that requirement any longer.  I'm
> > still puzzled as to how Yahoo is better, since Yahoo isn't a WSFA
> > member either, and specifically prohibits use of their mailing
> > list/forums for "corporate" purposes (isn't WSFA incorporated and
> > therefore inelligigble?) but whatever.
>
>I think the real reason was, after the Gilliland had stuck a knife
>into me, to give the knife a twist.

If memory serves, the one who set up the Yahoo list was Ernest,
during his brief stint as Secretary.  I don't believe he asked anyone
about it, but I may well have missed it if he did.  My impression is
that he set it up on his own, then told the club about it, and at
some point later, after a few folks were on it, the club made it
official.  At Ernest's request, and after I voiced disapproval of the
Yahoo option, I wrote a two part article for the Journal about what
options we had, and what I saw as the benefits and downsides of each of them.

   Not that I'm able
>to do a very good job of that, as meeting minutes with attendance
>information are only online for five of the last fourteen meetings.
>I hope that that information at least exists on paper somwhere.

I wouldn't count on it.  The secretary isn't at all the meetings, and
sometimes even when others take some notes, they don't always get to
him right away, and may not at all in some cases for all I
know.  Attendance isn't always recorded fully...I know I've been to a
couple of meetings and didn't happen to see a sign-in sheet go around
so I never got recorded at those.  I could have asked or hunted for
one, but I didn't.

> > It could limit your travel options anyway.  This list is just stored
> > at Keith's place in Virginia, and while they sometimes have really
> > stupid old fashioned laws in Virginia, they are nowhere near as
> > rabid about speech as China is.
>
>Actually, KeithLynch.net isn't in Virginia, it's in Minnesota.

Even better. ;-)

As for the ancient technology you are using, it is getting
rare.  I've been looking for a voice modem (one I can use to dial
out, play wav files through and read DTMF tones back from) and they
are pretty rare these days.  I can't find any of the ones the various
sites that have software for playing games with such things
recommend, and the one or two I have found are pretty tight-lipped
about what standards, if any, they support.  They just say that they
include "answering machine software"...Windows-only of course.  Sigh.

-- Mike B.