Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:43:37 -0400
From: <lees103 at verizon.net>
Subject: [WSFA] WSFA:  Alive and Well
To: "WSFA members" <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net>
Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net>

Keith,
    I must disagree with your statements that the WSFA website is either
wrong or out of date.  You appear to be looking at one page and applying it
to another page where the data on the first page is not applicable.  In
addition, you seem to be ignoring data that appears very clearly on the
second and subsequent pages.
    Specifically, the website's home page was indeed last updated last year.
However, the web calendar is a series of different pages that have been
updated more recently.  It's simply not correct to assume that one date on
one page of a living website applies to every page in the website.
    In addition, I very clearly found events on the web calendar other than
Capclave and WSFA business/social meetings.  Examples include a reading by
Benjamin Rosenbaum (1 August), National Book Festival (27 August), and
Philcon (21-23 November).  I know for a fact that Benjamin Rosenbaum's
reading was not scheduled last December so it is clear that the calendar is
being updated from time to time.  There are also a number of civic events
and religious holidays on the schedule.  As an atheist, you may not agree
with the various rationales for these events, but it's not correct to say
that they are not listed when they are.

                                    Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl at KeithLynch.net>
To: "WSFA members" <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:58 PM
Subject: [WSFA] Re: WSFA: Alive and Well

> Mike Bartman wrote:
>
>> Even if I look at the page with Lynx, the current events are
>> there...they are *seriously* ugly, pretty much unusably ugly, but
>> the data is there.
>
> I'm confused.  Do you mean the WSFA website or the Aussiecon website?
> The WSFA website (wsfa.org) looks fine in Lynx, except for parts of it
> being seriously out of date.  The Aussiecon website (aussiecon4.org.au)
> does not appear to contain any substantive information whatsoever
> when viewed in Lynx.  I don't know whether that's because it's badly
> broken, or because they just haven't gotten around to putting anything
> there yet.  Does anything substantive appear there when it's viewed
> with some other browser?
>
> If you mean WSFA's calendar of upcoming events (wsfa.org/calendar.htm),
> it too looks fine in Lynx -- but contains *no* future events
> whatsoever, except WSFA meetings and Capclaves, all of which have been
> listed there since last year.  (And yes, I'm sure the May 7, 2007 date
> is wrong.  But I'm equally convinced that the Decmber 31, 2007 date is
> correct.)
>
>> Keith, you might want to consider setting up a system for using the
>> internet that has ...
>
> I already have a system for using the Internet.  My finances are not
> currently in a state where I would consider spending hundreds of
> dollars just to work around other people's broken websites.  Keep in
> mind I would need not just new hardware and software, but also a new
> ISP account.  Only a small proportion of websites are broken, anyhow.
> As I said, WSFA's definitely is not broken.
>