From: "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl at KeithLynch.net> To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net> Subject: [WSFA] Re: Good last-minute save, WSFA Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:16:07 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net> Mike Bartman wrote: > It wasn't well stated, but I suspect that what was bugging Candy > was the bitterness and sniping that keeps coming into your posts > about WSFA. There was no bitterness in my post. I was congratulating the club on showing some signs of life, i.e. renewing its domain name at almost literally the last possible minute before spammers snapped it up. If a spammer *had* snapped it up, the club probably never would have gotten it back. At the last PRSFS meeting, I was once again asked what was going on with WSFA, and I once again said I had no idea, as I hadn't attended a WSFA meeting in years. I was actually of the opinion that the club may have died, based on the apparent total abandonment of the website and its pending expiration, but I kept that opinion to myself. I'm sorry to hear that Steve Smith has been ill for the past several months. He has my best wishes for a speedy recovery. I had wondered if something like that could be the explanation, except that I would have thought that in that case someone else would volunteer to fill in, as Sam Lubell filled in for Joe Mayhew as Journal editor in 1996 when Joe had his heart attack. Or would at least take a minute to post some kind of explanation. Please understand, I'm not complaining. Nobody owes me any WSFA Journals or updates or explanations for their absence. I'm just pointing out that to anyone not present at WSFA meetings, the club has given every impression of being abandoned. I think that's why I was asked about WSFA at PRSFS. Also, I do a bit of work on this list every month, and part of that is adding everyone who has attended three meetings to the whitelist, so that if they post, their message won't be rejected. But I've been unable to do that, as I have no idea who has been to the last several meetings, or, until now, whether there had even *been* any meetings since last year's Capclave. > You did a lot for WSFA, and were more than fair in how you dealt > with transferring things when you left. Thanks. > Some WSFAns, most notably the Gillilands (who are no longer WSFAns > either, due to actions on the part of WSFA that resulted from the > way they treated you and their reaction to those actions), treated > you very badly. Please don't blame me for their leaving. They left nearly a year after I did. Their leaving appears to have been based on the club's reaction to several letters they sent to major fanzines which defamed numerous WSFA members throughout all of fandom, including the club's president, vice president, treasurer, and trustees. I had nothing do do with it. I was merely one of many people they had defamed in some (but ot all) of their letters. > WSFA as a whole did not react as quickly as you demanded to that > situation, so you've decided to blame the organization as a whole, > and, at times, anyone still, or even newly, since you don't > discriminate those who have joined since you left, affiliated with > it, and you take frequent potshots at the organization when it > doesn't meet your expectations. No. I have bent over backwards to avoid defaming WSFA and Capclave, even when people question me about them, which they do. I am not upset at all about the vast majority of WSFA members. I am friends with several of them, and pleasant and friendly with nearly all of them. However, you must admit that WSFA and Capclave do have a reputation for selecting some truly nasty people to fill some of their offices. Rather than get upset at those few people, I simply avoid WSFA and its annual con. > WSFA is a social organization. People show up for fun. They > don't show up for strife, anger, yelling, accusations, or other > unpleasantness. That's certainly true of most members. However, there are a small number of members for whom strife, accusations, and vicious gossip are apparently their idea of fun. This is why I no longer attend WSFA or Capclave or recommend them to others. And no, I'm not just talking about the Gillilands, or even Elizabeth, otherwise I would have returned to the club after they left. I think you know what three people I'm talking about. If you don't, please ask me in private email, or in person at Ravencon or Balticon. > You are free to react however you like, and say whatever you like > about anything, especially on your own listserve, but if you keep > getting more and more bitter about what happened, it isn't going > to make your life better, or result in very many people wanting to > associate with you in future. I am not bitter, and I don't think the Gillilands had crossed my mind at all this year until you mentioned them. Plenty of people associate with me, in and out of fandom. I am, however, very stressed, due to several recent events, none of which have anything to do with WSFA: * My mother was in the ICU, and for a while nobody was sure if she would survive the week. (She's still hospitalized, but no longer in the ICU.) * Walking home from visiting my mother in the hospital, I stepped on something that went right through the heel of my shoe and gave me a nasty bruise, making it painful to walk. I still can't walk without pain. * For a couple days there was raw sewage that had come up out of the drains into my bathtub and toilet. It smelled very bad. And all the landlord had done was turn off the water. So I couldn't use the toilet, take a shower, shave, comb my hair (combing it when it's dry doesn't accomplish anything), or even get a drink of water. I'm paying more than a grand a month in rent for this? Bad enough that there's no soundproofing and my new upstairs neighbors get up at 5:00 am, causing my ceiling to repeatedly creak like a door in a horror movie. * A spammer has been forging my email address on his spams. This has resulted in over two and a half million blowback messages, and is likely to cause me to miss legitimate email and to have my domain name added to numerous spam blacklists. And there's not a thing I can do about it, as he's touting a website in Spamland (also known as China). > Candy's reaction, however stated, is likely to be reflected at least > to some extent in others who get painted, even slightly, by your > broad brush strokes. Candy is the one person who automatically took Elizabeth's word for it that I had refused to leave Elizabeth's condo, even though such an action would be grossly out of character for me, she never produced any witnesses even though there were allegedly numerous WSFA members and others there at the time, she had invited me back at least twice since the last time I had been there, and she refused to say whether this alleged transgression had been a few weeks earlier or a few years earlier. That was not the first time Candy had called me a liar. She had previously insisted that I had blocked one of her messages from this list. She later apologized, and I, perhaps foolishly, accepted that apology even though it was without explanation. I have no idea why Elizabeth or Candy have attempted to destroy my reputation in fandom. Fortunately, they have failed. So I can't say that I'm sorry to see both of them gone from this list. (Elizabeth unsubscribed over three years ago.) I will, however, resubscribe them if they ask, as I'm not one to ban people.