Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:19:47 -0400 Subject: [WSFA] Re: [wsfa-forum] Old Tech From: Michael Walsh <walshmichaelj at gmail.com> To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> Cc: wsfa-forum at yahoogroups.com Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Mike B. <yahoo at omniphile.com> wrote: > On 4/23/2013 11:03 AM, Michael Walsh wrote: > >> While much of the tech world views a two-year-old smartphone as >> hopelessly obsolete, large swaths of our transportation and military >> infrastructure, some modern businesses, and even a few computer >> programmers rely daily on technology that hasn=92t been updated for >> decades." >> >> http://www.pcworld.com/article/249951/if_it_aint_broke_dont_fix_it_anci= > ent_computers_in_use_today.html > > Much of the tech world knows more about tech than the guy who wrote that = > > article. FWIW: "Benj Edwards is a freelance writer who specializes in computer and video game history. He is also Editor-in-Chief of Vintage Computing and Gaming, a blog devoted to vintage technology." >And economics. > > When I worked for The Wollongong Group/Attachmate doing TCP/IP stacks > for the OpenVMS OS, we had a customer who came to us for a patch for an > outdated version of our software. It was for a version of OpenVMS that > had come out 15 years earlier. They could not upgrade to the current > release because the VAX that was running it was part of a CAT scanner, > and if they changed to a new OS version they'd have to re-certify all > the machines they'd ever made that got upgraded. FDA rules apparently. > > I believe that the FAA has upgraded most, if not all, of the computers > used to run air traffic control in the USA, but until at least the late > 1990s they were running on 1960's technology. As they upgraded they > were replacing room-sized equipment bays with a single rack of equipment = > > due to the changes in technology. The upgrades took many years and cost = > > millions of dollars due to the need to make sure that the new stuff was > at least as reliable as the old stuff, and did at least as many things. > > When I was working on Navy contracts in the early 1980s I worked on an > AN/UYK-20 computer, which is used in ships for things like signal > processing (i.e. radar and sonar and targeting). It's a 2' cube that > weighs about 200 lbs. It has 64K (yes, KILObytes) of RAM...which is > done with magnetic core memory...which has the advantage over CMOS > memory in that it doesn't get wiped by a power failure...i.e. you can be = > > back online as soon as power is up again, without a reboot). It has an > instruction set optimized for what it does...it's the only system I've > ever seen that has a machine instruction for hyperbolic cosine. It's > also fairly indestructible...I think you could drop it out a 4th floor > window without hurting it. It's also the only system I've seen that has = > > a switch on the front labeled "battle short"...this disables the > overtemp shutdown circuit (i.e. "I don't care if you are on fire! Keep > shooting!!). Oddly enough the responses to the article have lots of similar "I remember ..." > You won't find any of these systems at the local Best Buy or > Micro-Center, I'm shocked, just shocked ... >and none of the systems they sell will do what these > systems can do. There's more to tech and computing than cell phones, > tablets and PCs. mjw