Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:25:44 -0400 From: "Mike B." <yahoo at omniphile.com> To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net> Subject: [WSFA] Re: apology for yahoo's mess Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at KeithLynch.net> On 9/12/2013 4:32 PM, Tamar Lindsay wrote: > Does google do any better? > Does chrome do better than > firefox for that? I gave up on web-mail shortly after I first tried to use it. They all have at least one fatal flaw: you have no control over when or if your user interface changes. Mail on the internet is done using standards. If you run software that sends e-mail that meets the RFC standards, it doesn't matter what software that is...you can send using telnet if you want (and I have, just to show it could be done...but that was before the cryptographic authentication schemes started getting used by mail servers). Yahoo, G-Mail and the other web-mail user interfaces use those standards on the back-end. What they do between you and the internet is up to them...and they often aren't real smart and they almost always aim for the common denominator, not any special needs you might have. That's why I use Thunderbird. With a few plugins, and for my setup, it has the same capabilities I'd want from Outlook, but doesn't have the hassles. With a few more plugins it beats what I could get from Outlook...and I have control over when or if it gets changed here. If I want to go through the hassle of getting the source code, I can make it do anything I want (but I don't want to go through that hassle, and the as-shipped version is just fine anyway). If you don't like free software, there are good alternatives you can pay for, like Eudora. You can even use Yahoo groups with a mail program...you don't have to use Yahoo's interface. I'm writing this in Thunderbird, and I can't remember the last time I tried to send a message while actually on Yahoo. -- Mike B.