Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 10:31:15 -0500 From: "Michael Walsh" <MJW at mail.press.jhu.edu> To: <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> Subject: [WSFA] Re: Nebulas Reply-To: WSFA members <WSFAlist at keithlynch.net> >Barry Newton <bnewton at ashcomp.com> wrote: >> It works if you clip off the obnoxious =3D20 that Michael's email >> system slaps onto almost every line of his posts... > >That's MIME. One of many obnoxious things that "smart" email programs >do. Pretty soon they'll be so smart that we won't be able to communicate >at all. > >I prefer a really stupid email program. One where *I* provide all >the intelligence, and it does exactly what I tell it to, rather than >assuming it knows better. > >Note that when he quoted your message the =3D20 got re-MIMEd into = =3D3D20. > >Instead of trying to clean it up, I have the list set up to simply >reject the worst offenses (HTML, base64, PDF, MSWord, RTF, etc) and=20 >to pass on everything else. I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to >automatically un-MIME all messages. (Undoing HTML, PDF, etc, would >be much harder.) > >MIME has never been much of a problem for me, since I memorized ASCII >decades ago, so I can read hex almost as easily as plain text. Which >came in handy during the anti-"Internet Decency Act" demonstrations, >when some of my fellow protesters had signs which said things in hex. >Mostly very rude and indecent things, it turned out. > >What I do find obnoxious are messages quoting all of the previous >message, which in turn quotes all of yet another message. Sometimes >as much as seven levels deep. Am I the only one annoyed by this? >Or should I automatically trim quoted messages? What, you no like the seven deep messages with the most recent saying "Me = too!" Seriously, I think people should take that small extra moment to = trim excessive lines. Think Hemingway, not Henry James. After some poking around on the web I was able to locate a patch to = GroupWise that allows as an "option" what is called "internet style = prefixing". GroupWise normally does top posting, which is fine for a = business enviroment where the question might be ":Do you have the Smith = file?" but is utterly obnoxious in the nominal real world. As for the "Mime" thingie, sorry, I have no idea how to turn that off, or = if that is even an option. & it's probably not worth asking the IS Dept = here since they seemed perplexed over the concept of "internet style = prefixing". mjw >--=20 >Keith F. Lynch - kfl at keithlynch.net - http://keithlynch.net/=20 >I always welcome replies to my e-mail, postings, and web pages, but >unsolicited bulk e-mail (spam) is not acceptable. Please do not send me >HTML, "rich text," or attachments, as all such email is discarded unread. >